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Don Marti
2014-11-20 01:45:46 UTC
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So, most web privacy intrusions try to hide
themselves...what if we had an easy way to warn users
when they're trackable from site to site?

Here's something I was kicking around over the
weekend: http://ad.aloodo.com/

If you're blocking third-party JavaScript, or taking
appropriate measures to avoid "social site" cookies,
you don't get a warning. Otherwise, when it realizes
that it can track you from aloodo.com to zgp.org,
it'll try to notify you with a scary/informative
popup. (The voluminious JavaScript only loads _after_
a successful tracking test.)

Comments, suggestions, bug reports welcome.

Why this stuff matters:
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/business/monkey-badger/
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Don Marti
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Ruben Safir
2014-11-23 05:34:15 UTC
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Post by Don Marti
So, most web privacy intrusions try to hide
themselves...what if we had an easy way to warn users
when they're trackable from site to site?
These children are so stupid that they just don't care and will tell you
so... flatly.
Post by Don Marti
Here's something I was kicking around over the
weekend: http://ad.aloodo.com/
If you're blocking third-party JavaScript, or taking
appropriate measures to avoid "social site" cookies,
you don't get a warning. Otherwise, when it realizes
that it can track you from aloodo.com to zgp.org,
it'll try to notify you with a scary/informative
popup. (The voluminious JavaScript only loads _after_
a successful tracking test.)
Comments, suggestions, bug reports welcome.
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/business/monkey-badger/
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Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
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Don Marti
2014-11-23 06:32:46 UTC
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Post by Ruben Safir
Post by Don Marti
So, most web privacy intrusions try to hide
themselves...what if we had an easy way to warn users
when they're trackable from site to site?
These children are so stupid that they just don't care and will tell you
so... flatly.
Common reaction -- we, the elitists, have ad blockers,
so who cares about the Muggles?

But the problem is externalities. Advertising paid
for a lot of fiction and non-fiction through the
19th and 20th centuries, including some good stuff
that we still read. Today, most _online_ ad money
is going into Big Data intermediaries and outright
fraud -- creating negative externalities instead of
positive ones.

http://zgp.org/~dmarti/business/monkey-badger/

So can we preserve the cultural-goods-funding benefits
of advertising on the web? I think so, if we help to
make web ads work more like magazine ads and less like
email spam. (Look how many of the classic stories
we read today came from ad-bearing magazines, and
how many book authors got started writing for them.)
Part of that includes selling (yes, selling) end users
on web privacy protection.
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Don Marti
2015-05-23 16:36:02 UTC
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Post by Ruben Safir
Post by Don Marti
So, most web privacy intrusions try to hide
themselves...what if we had an easy way to warn users
when they're trackable from site to site?
These children are so stupid that they just don't care and will tell you
so... flatly.
Common reaction -- we, the elitists, have ad blockers,
so who cares about the Muggles?
Why independent webmasters should care, and help to set
up their users with tracking protection:

Request for independent sites
http://blog.aloodo.org/misc/site-request/

A long-lived Internet bug is spreading malware,
enabling fraud, and taking financial support away
from important cultural goods. This bug doesn't have
a logo or a CVE number, but I'm writing to ask you,
as the maintainer of an independent web site, for
your help in fixing it.

The bug I'm talking about is the problem of
third-party user tracking. It's left over from some
quick-and-dirty web security decisions of the 1990s.
When users can be tracked from site to site, much of
the value created on the web is shifted away from
sites and users, and toward criminals and
surveillance marketing intermediaries.

...

The aloodo.org stuff is there to make it easy for
sites. The goal is to make it no harder than adding a
social or other third-party widget.
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